1 Topic by joan (edited by joan 2024-12-30 10:41:13)

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Hi everyone,

Here is a link to the first public version of the GenICam plugin.

Kinovea.GenICam-1.1.0.zip

Compatibility: this plugin is only compatible with Kinovea 2024.1

Thanks to every one that helped test this plugin so far!

How to use:
- Unzip the archive somewhere and copy the "GenICam" folder into Kinovea application data folder under the Plugins\Camera directory (you can find the application data folder via Kinovea menu Help > Open log folder).
- You must still install the drivers and software from your camera vendor separately. If the installer for the vendor runtime or SDK has various options make sure to check the options mentioning "GenICam" or "GenTL".
- Restart Kinovea.

Currently reported to work with cameras from the following vendors:
- Allied Vision
- Basler
- Baumer
- Daheng imaging
- IDS
- Teledyne FLIR
- Vision Datum

Known issues:
- With IDS cameras, reducing the image resolution results in a black image. (Not clear if this is only for the UI-xxx cameras or also the newer U3-xxx, if any one has one of these please report).
- 1 report that Daheng cameras using GigE interface don't work (USB 3 cameras do work).
- When using two Teledyne FLIR cameras of the same model at the same time it can crash. One camera should work.

Please report your experience and what camera type you test it with.

Thanks,
Joan

2 Reply by aroe79

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Hello everyone!

I'm a new Kinovea user and I'm thrilled to learn that this new plugin is available for my cameras. I've been using SwingCatalyst for golf swing analysis and it's fine software and even integrates with my launch monitor, but the $200/year subscription is a bit steep for just being a personal home user.

I've installed Kinovea 2024.1 along with the GenICam plugin. When I click on the camera icon at the top my cameras briefly appear before the program crashes. I'm using 2 Teledyne Flir Blackfly S USB3 cameras model #BFS-U3-04S2C-CS.

Any tips or solutions to get things working would be great. Are there some settings that I need to tweak on the cameras? Could it be that the SwingCatalyst software is somehow interfering? SwingCatalyst is not running when this happens. I know this is a brand new plugin so a bit of trial and error is expected.

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Thanks for testing and sorry it's not yet working correctly. Thanks for the log by mail. I don't think SwingCatalyst is interfering. I'll investigate.

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Yeah, this is what i am waiting for big_smile
Any updates about the Teledyne Flir ?
Greetinx big_smile

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So far I have received feedback from 3 persons with Teledyne FLIR cameras. It worked for two of them and didn't work for the third one, but I'm not sure what the problem is. So any additional feedback helps.

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joan wrote:

So far I have received feedback from 3 persons with Teledyne FLIR cameras. It worked for two of them and didn't work for the third one, but I'm not sure what the problem is. So any additional feedback helps.

Hi,  thank you so much for the plugin / camera driver for the Teledyne FLIR line.   I'm hopeful it will work, but on first try my BFS-U3-04S2C-C ( Blackfly USB 3.1 ) cameras are not outputting video.    They are being acknowledged by Kivovea 2024.1 after installing the plugin.  I do get an image from another supported usb camera, so I know the app is functioning with other cameras.   
I am similar to person above, using Swing Catalyst previously, so had the same thought that there is a conflict.  Does your plugin require other drivers from Teledyne ?   

Best,

Jake

7 Reply by jaked (edited by jaked 2024-12-16 19:12:01)

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aroe79 wrote:

Hello everyone!

I'm a new Kinovea user and I'm thrilled to learn that this new plugin is available for my cameras. I've been using SwingCatalyst for golf swing analysis and it's fine software and even integrates with my launch monitor, but the $200/year subscription is a bit steep for just being a personal home user.

I've installed Kinovea 2024.1 along with the GenICam plugin. When I click on the camera icon at the top my cameras briefly appear before the program crashes. I'm using 2 Teledyne Flir Blackfly S USB3 cameras model #BFS-U3-04S2C-CS.

Any tips or solutions to get things working would be great. Are there some settings that I need to tweak on the cameras? Could it be that the SwingCatalyst software is somehow interfering? SwingCatalyst is not running when this happens. I know this is a brand new plugin so a bit of trial and error is expected.

We seem to have identical setups!   Let me know if you have had success.  I have been using Swing Catalyst and the Flir BFS-U3-04S2C-CS blackfly usb 3.1 camera as well. 

Jake

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FYI , I installed the Teledyne Spinnaker 4.0 SDK which installs the needed drivers.  Now the Flir blackly usb cameras work in Kinovea.  Thanks again !

Now I just need to learn how to change frame rates within Kinovea.  Recorded at 437 fps , but it plays at 30 frames a second.  I guess I need to read the Kinovea manuals / tutorials and such ! :-)

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joan wrote:

So far I have received feedback from 3 persons with Teledyne FLIR cameras. It worked for two of them and didn't work for the third one, but I'm not sure what the problem is. So any additional feedback helps.

Wasn’t working initially but I installed the teledyne Soinnaker SDK ( which includes the likely needed drivers ) and it’s working now with the Teledyne Flir Blackfly USB cameras.

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That's great to hear!

Yes the Spinnaker SDK has the "FLIR_GenTL_v140.cti" file which is a bridge between the actual device driver and the GenICam libraries. (In the case of user aroe79 above they already had that installed based on the log so that wasn't the issue).

I'll add a little paragraph to the first post to clarify.

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I am happy to report that the following Teledyne Flir camera works flawlessly with Kinovea after following the instructions on this thread.  Thank you Kinovea for making it happen!

BFS-U3-04S2M-CS USB 3.1 Blackfly S, Monochrome Camera

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It appears the issue with FLIR cameras is that when you have two of them of the same model connected at the same time, the identifier we use doesn't differentiate between them and this causes a crash. Single camera should work.

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I don't have two cameras of a same model, but can confirm that two cameras do work when they are different models.